Talk:Bade/@comment-3247345-20121021014843/@comment-3247345-20121022054612

I have never seen a a negative comment about Jade on this page since I started coming on this page around the time TGP aired except for some ship warring comments from Boriers. Anything that can remotely be criticized as casting Jade in a negative light is in the context of her actions being bad for Bade. As for Tori hate, it's generally been negative. Almost every time I see a comment that they like Tori it's followed by something negative about her. I may have exaggerated when I used certain words but the underlying basis for what I'm saying remains. I'm really pointing to general trends. It seems to be postive for Jade and negative for Tori on a whole. Which is fine. I totally understand this sentiment given that I ship Seddie, a ship similar to Bade in many ways. You're looking at a guy and two ships based on who he should be with. The character that a shipper wants tends to be viewed in a postive light and the character a shipper doensn't want want to end up with the guys is viewed in a negative light. I've been through those dynamics with Carly and Sam. It's indisputable that these trends exist. That's not to say that every Bade shipper worships Jade or that every Bade shipper hates Tori. I'm just pointing to general trends here. I don't even really take issue with the trends since I totally get where they're coming from. The only reason I'm pointing this out is to show the contridiction between these general trends and the position a large number of people are taking on Jade's behavior. This just seems like the perfect case to show a case where Jade actually acted better than Cat and Tori in a way that's not clouded by shipping biases. I just thought it would be welcomed but the response I'm getting seems to be a knee jerk reaction to avoid appearing to have these biases in favor of Jade even though it would be justified in this case. I'm not even trying to critcize these tendancies. People have opinions of certain characters and they prefer certain characters over the other. I'm just pointing out that the reaction I'm getting to my comment are inconsistent with what I usually see here in regrards to how much people love Jade and I'm wondering why that is.